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Reusability of NVMe ‘WD Blue SN570 1TB’
Hello,
Thank you for accepting the present case in the Medion Community system.
Confirmation of the reusability of NVMe ‘WD Blue SN570 1TB would be a nice step to go forward, I thought. Below a summary of tests performed accordingly. Since the test results do not indicated a crucial failure, I finally decided to reuse the NVMe.
Please advise on how to improve my humble assessment of the NVMe’s reusability and my attempts to interpret the related test-results. Your support is is highly appreciated!
Kind Regards
dgtdabbler
Overview on contributions, recently uploaded
(A)) PCIe Error 'RxErr', NVMe Link to PCIe Bridge Downgraded (LinkStatus Width x2)
B) Reusability of NVMe ‘WD Blue SN570 1TB’
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B) Reusability of NVMe ‘WD Blue SN570 1TB’ - (Decision: NVMe shall be reused for the time, see below)
1) Command: sudo smartctl --all /dev/nvme0
Result:
- No hint on message ‘RxErr’ or crucial error was indicated.
- SMART – health test: passed
- Percentage used: 0%
- Power cycles (24000+) and unsafe shutdowns (23000+) appear pretty high
- Error Information Log Entries: 2 (not fully clear about importance and consequences)
HeLo@E14412:~$ sudo smartctl --all /dev/nvme0 smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-27-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Number: WD Blue SN570 1TB Serial Number: 2147C5472405 Firmware Version: 234110WD PCI Vendor/Subsystem ID: 0x15b7 IEEE OUI Identifier: 0x001b44 Total NVM Capacity: 1.000.204.886.016 [1,00 TB] Unallocated NVM Capacity: 0 Controller ID: 0 NVMe Version: 1.4 Number of Namespaces: 1 Namespace 1 Size/Capacity: 1.000.204.886.016 [1,00 TB] Namespace 1 Formatted LBA Size: 512 Namespace 1 IEEE EUI-64: 001b44 4a49c5ab37 Local Time is: Wed Dec 11 21:03:32 2024 CET Firmware Updates (0x14): 2 Slots, no Reset required Optional Admin Commands (0x0017): Security Format Frmw_DL Self_Test Optional NVM Commands (0x005f): Comp Wr_Unc DS_Mngmt Wr_Zero Sav/Sel_Feat Timestmp Log Page Attributes (0x1e): Cmd_Eff_Lg Ext_Get_Lg Telmtry_Lg Pers_Ev_Lg Maximum Data Transfer Size: 128 Pages Warning Comp. Temp. Threshold: 80 Celsius Critical Comp. Temp. Threshold: 85 Celsius Namespace 1 Features (0x02): NA_Fields Supported Power States St Op Max Active Idle RL RT WL WT Ent_Lat Ex_Lat 0 + 4.20W 3.70W - 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 + 2.70W 2.30W - 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 + 1.90W 1.80W - 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 - 0.0250W - - 3 3 3 3 3900 11000 4 - 0.0050W - - 4 4 4 4 5000 44000 Supported LBA Sizes (NSID 0x1) Id Fmt Data Metadt Rel_Perf 0 + 512 0 2 1 - 4096 0 1 === START OF SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02) Critical Warning: 0x00 Temperature: 23 Celsius Available Spare: 100% Available Spare Threshold: 10% Percentage Used: 0% Data Units Read: 9.186.753 [4,70 TB] Data Units Written: 6.877.912 [3,52 TB] Host Read Commands: 52.209.910 Host Write Commands: 59.937.179 Controller Busy Time: 477 Power Cycles: 24.836 Power On Hours: 959 Unsafe Shutdowns: 23.528 Media and Data Integrity Errors: 0 Error Information Log Entries: 2 Warning Comp. Temperature Time: 0 Critical Comp. Temperature Time: 0 Error Information (NVMe Log 0x01, 16 of 256 entries) No Errors Logged
2) Command: sudo nvme smart-log /dev/nvme0
Result:
- No hint on message ‘RxErr’ or crucial error was indicated.
- critical_warning: 0
- percentage_used: 0
- endurance group critical warning summary: 0
- Power cycles (24000+) and unsafe shutdowns (23000+) appear pretty high
- num_err_log_entries: 2 (not fully clear about importance and consequences)
HeLo@E14412:~$ sudo nvme smart-log /dev/nvme0 Smart Log for NVME device:nvme0 namespace-id:ffffffff critical_warning : 0 temperature : 24°C (297 Kelvin) available_spare : 100% available_spare_threshold : 10% percentage_used : 0% endurance group critical warning summary: 0 Data Units Read : 9.186.770 (4,70 TB) Data Units Written : 6.878.000 (3,52 TB) host_read_commands : 52.210.320 host_write_commands : 59.939.020 controller_busy_time : 477 power_cycles : 24.836 power_on_hours : 959 unsafe_shutdowns : 23.528 media_errors : 0 num_err_log_entries : 2 Warning Temperature Time : 0 Critical Composite Temperature Time : 0 Thermal Management T1 Trans Count : 0 Thermal Management T2 Trans Count : 0 Thermal Management T1 Total Time : 0 Thermal Management T2 Total Time : 0
3) QDiskInfo (Linux tool with graphical user interface)
- Result is similar to that from sudo nvme smart-log
- No hint on message ‘RxErr’ or crucial error was indicated.
- Health Status: Good, 100 %
- critical_warning: 0
- percentage_used: 0
- endurance group critical warning summary: 0
- Power cycles (24000+) and unsafe shutdowns (23000+) appear pretty high
- Num Err Log Entries: 2 (not fully clear about importance and consequences)
4) WD Dashboard is the OEM’s (Western Digital) diagnose tool for this NVMe and requires to be run under Windows. Accordingly I used another (Windows-based) computer, connected the WD Blue SN570 via external NVMe to USB adapter (to be clear: with the notebook’s m.2 socket left free/empty) and ran WD Dashboard with following results:
- Short and Extended Diagnose were ‘..successfully completed’
- Both, Short and Extended Diagnose with result ‘no problems were detected’ and
- ‘Health test .. PASSED’ was confirmed.
- No hint on message ‘RxErr’ or crucial error was indicated.
5) WD Dashboard diagnose, with WD Blue SN570 1TB situated in the notebook’s m.2 socket
- WD Dashboard results were same as in test (4), above.
- Additionally, WD Dashboard offered a Trim-function, which I activated and ran for a day.
- Utilised are 2 lanes (of 4 provided by NVMe) by Windows, acc. to WD Dashboard (by analogy with Linux)
- Searching for ‘RxErr’: Sifting thru the system I could not find a hint on such error, due to lack of skills.
- No hint on message ‘RxErr’ or crucial error was indicated.
6) Firmware upgrade to 234110WD was successfully implemented using WD Dashboard.
- No hint on message ‘RxErr’ or crucial error was indicated.
7) Partitioning and formatting (EXT4 and FAT) succeeded on the WD Blue SN570 1TB, connected via external NVMe to USB adapter (with the notebook’s m.2 socket left free/empty), by using command sudo cfdisk /dev/nvme0n1 as well as by using the Linux utility Disks, each without failure indication. Result is displayed by command
sudo fdisk -l
HeLo@E14412:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/nvme0n1 Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 931,51 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors Disk model: WD Blue SN570 1TB Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x8ec5c9bd Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/nvme0n1p1 2101248 136318975 134217728 64G 83 Linux /dev/nvme0n1p2 136318976 236982271 100663296 48G 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/nvme0n1p3 236982272 1952452607 1715470336 818G 83 Linux /dev/nvme0n1p4 * 2048 2101247 2099200 1G c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
😎 Debian could be installed on the WD Blue SN570 1TB (connected via external NVMe to USB adapter (to be clear again: with the notebook’s m.2 socket left free/empty), by running a debian-live-system from USB stick.
- Then debian booted and ran nice and flawless during a test, which I ended after a week of daily use.
- Here, the message ‘RxErr’ did not show up, obviously since the WD Blue SN570 was linked via PCIe SATA Bridge/AHCI (so no longer via PCIe NVMe Bridge as before).
(Only, with this test, flawless communication of the WD Blue SN570 1TB via NVMe with the PCIe Bridge can not be confirmed, of course.)
- This result (no more ‘RxErr’-messages) is very nice – however the operating system is sitting on the NVMe situated in the external adapter, connected via unsteady USB cable .. not really what you prefer for every day use. For the better, the NVMe has to go back into the m.2 socket on the notebook’s main board, to ensure a mechanically stable connection.
- No hint on crucial error of WD Blue SN570 1TB was indicated. The result may be an indication of a conflict related to the WD Blue SN570 1TB’s link to the PCIe NVMe Bridge.
Considering all points (1 to 😎 above, I decided to reuse the NVMe WD Blue SN570 1TB, because none of the utilised tools and tests indicated a crucial failure of the NVMe, and despite clarification is still lacking for following annoying message/test result:
- RxErr message ongoing with NVMe installed in the notebook’s m.2 socket (so, connected via PCIe NVMe Bridge)
- unsafe shutdowns count > 23000
- power on count > 24000
Your view on the reusability of the WD Blue SN570 1TB is highly appreciated!
Capabilities and compatibility of the notebook’s SSD port
Hello,
On the notebook’s SSD capabilities and compatibility I could not find any relevant information in the manual and on the webpages of Medion (and EPC), please see details below.
How to confirm the notebook’s SSD port capabilities and compatibility, please could you advise? Your recommendation is highly appreciated!
Kind Regards
dgtdabbler
Overview on contributions, recently uploaded
(A)) PCIe Error 'RxErr', NVMe Link to PCIe Bridge Downgraded (LinkStatus Width x2)
B) Reusability of NVMe ‘WD Blue SN570 1TB’ - (Decision: NVMe shall be reused for the time)
C) Hardware test & inspect - (Deficiency is not remedied. Message RxErr is ongoing)
D) Capabilities/compatibility of the notebook’s SSD port
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D) Capabilities/compatibility of notebook’s SSD port (Result: No info in manual and on Medion and EPC webpage, see the following)
Information on the notebook’s capabilities typically are made available in the notebook’s (motherboard’s) manual and on the manufacturer’s webpage (by including updates). Here is what I collected:
1) Medion instruction manual:
The manual is silent on compatible SSD and on the notebook’s SSD port capabilities. Whether the notebook supports SATA/AHCI, PCIe/NVMe or both, is not mentioned, as well as the PCIe generation and available lanes (manual's table of contents below).
How/where to get data on notebook’s SSD port capabilities and compatible SSD?
2) Medion search tool on webpage:
The Medion search tool (www.medion.com/sg/_lightbox/gsa.php), upon submitting one of the notebook’s identification numbers (E14412, MD64010, MSN30032849), replies just ‘no drivers/software/manuals found’.
How to get information on notebook’s SSD port capabilities and compatible SSD from this Medion tool?
3) Another Medion search tool on webpage:
The other Medion tool (www.medion.com > Service > Service Portal), upon submitting anyone of the notebook’s identification numbers, does not reply at all. It simply keeps on showing ‘busy’ (a ‘spinning circle’) for ever. I unsuccessfully tried for a couple of days.
How to get information from this Medion tool?
4) Medion Service Shop and description of offered parts and their features:
Searching in the Medion service shop (www.medion.com > Service > Service Shop ), there are listed i.e.
- the notebook with its typical identification numbers
- the SSD board (but without details on m.2 slot configuration)
- the CPU (Intel i5-10210U 1.6GHz 15W SRGKY B)
- .. furthermore pad, monitor, hinge, power supply, etc.
- but nothing on SSD is mentioned
The descriptions of parts, offered in the Medion Service Shop, do not help figuring out the missing information on the notebook’s SSD port capabilities.
5) ECS webpage (the notebook SF40CM is an ECS make) - Download Centre:
The ECS download centre (ECS Home > Support > Download Centre) does not find the notebook SF40CM.
6) ECS webpage – Home > Search
The search tool (ECS Home > Search) finds the notebook SF40CM and lists following details (see also at the bottom of the screenshot):
14" performance laptop Compared to the traditional HDDs,
SSD offer better read/write speeds and booting-up times.
SSD storage 30% faster speed. It is compliant with MIL-..
Clicking forward, the ECS tool displays another page, listing once again SF40CM (14.’’) now with the options ‘Specification/Download/FAQ/Support’. But as soon as you click on one of these options, the tool displays ‘oops, something went wrong’.
That's kind of strange, isn't it? (For other similar board IDs, the tool actually lists appropriate details.)
7) A couple of recommended replacement NVMe SSD for this notebook are listed in an online offer on the webpage of ‘ipc-c…’: 990 EVO PCIe NVMe SSD .., 970 EVO ((PCIe)).., P3 PCIe NVMe SSD . This webpage I found, when searching the net for keywords ‘Medion Akoya E14412 (SF40CM) Ersatzteile’. Not sure whether these SSD fit the present notebook, since its MSN is not mentioned in the offer, only just E14412 and MD64010 match the offer. (Medion Service Support and Shop do not mention/suggest any replacement SSD at all, unfortunately. That is why I included the offers of ipc-c here.)
😎 The built-in m.2 socket is M-key (below photo). For m.2-module keyings the Wikipedia article ‘m.2’ lists ‘M’ and ‘B’ , so M-key and B-key:
M - PCIe x4 (NVMe), SATA, SMBus
B - PCIe x2 (NVMe), SATA, USB, UIM, SSIC, UART-I2C, SMBus
Some motherboards however might not provide full support of the SSD port – acc. to a few publications mentioned in the literature list of Wikipedia article ‘NVM Express’. The involved authors recommend to see the motherboard/computer manufacturer’s manual, to figure out the supported SSD port capabilities and features.
The WD Blue SN570 1TB involved with the message ‘RxErr’ is displayed in the photo. The originally supplied SSD ‘S3+ m.2 SATA 2280 SSD 512GB (B+M key)’ was removed at the very begin of setting up and using the notebook.
Result, looking at above items 1 to 9: No final clarity about the notebook’s and its SSD port capabilities. Still not.
Any idea on how to simplify and ease the way of getting clarity on the notebook's SSD capabilities, compatible SSD and on how to get rid of the 'RxErr' message, mentioned earlier? Your advice is highly appreciated.
