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Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:20:48 GMT

Hello,

I have a Medion Akoya E4251 and it has a m.2 slot. I am thinking about installing a new m.2 drive and my question is if windows can boot from m.2 drive (faster), instead of onboard drive (slower).

Thanks.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Bodgekin — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:57:00 GMT

Hi @Acelsp ,

Which E4251 do you have exactly? And are you sure that the harddrive you have currently is on the motherboard? The models I could find all seem to already have an M.2 SSD, and no integrated harddrive.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:38:31 GMT

It is MSN 30025555 model. It has an integrated 64GB eMMC on board

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Bodgekin — Tue, 02 Jul 2019 08:00:33 GMT

Hi @Acelsp ,

Then I don't see why it would not be possible to boot from the M.2 SSD, you should be able to install Windows on it using the Media creation tool.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:24:11 GMT

In that case, I think I would need a windows key to use that tool. And in my case windows is already installed in eMMC drive, but I don’t have the key to reinstall it

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:26:59 GMT

The windows key is usually in the system BIOS. So you should not ask it and windows will install perfectly.

When it's time to ask for the windows key, it will read it automatically from the BIOS and will not ask you.

This is usually done normally. And it should be like that in Medion Akoya E4251.

I'm going to do like you.

By the way the SSD that you are going to put is NVMe?

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:35:56 GMT

I was thinking in a sata m.2. I don’t think nvme is supported

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 10:34:44 GMT

I have an NVME to prove it.
Out of curiosity, throughout the day, when I have a gap. I'm going to see if the Akoya E4251 can recognize it.

I'll tell you

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 10:47:32 GMT

Great!! Waiting for your results... Thanks!! 😊

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

TPFLegionaire — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 11:37:38 GMT

@jjrodri07

We really appreciate your help, looking forward to your findings

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Sat, 06 Jul 2019 07:54:58 GMT

Definitely not.
Although it is able to connect to storage devices in M2 format.
The BIOS does not support the NVME protocol.

And it makes sense, since the system would not be able to absorb the 3500Mb / second that it is capable of providing in reading and writing.

So I see more logical, taking into account the capacity of the Medion Akoya E4251 system, which uses the SATA III protocol that is able to provide up to 550Mb / second in reading and writing.

I think SATA III will go perfect for this device.

Here you have a photos of the M2 NVMe test

Not-Support-NVMe-4Not-Support-NVMe-1Not-Support-NVMe-2Not-Support-NVMe-3

Now it's time to decide which one to buy.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Sat, 06 Jul 2019 07:58:01 GMT

Thank you!!

I hope it will be useful for everyone.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

TPFLegionaire — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 06:53:18 GMT

hi @jjrodri07

Very informative, good work.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 16:04:17 GMT

Yes, Win 10 starts from the SSD drive.

I have configured the SSD unit as the main unit C and the 64Gb of the eMMC memory as the unit D.

Happy with the change,

If you have any problem when trying to do it, do not hesitate to ask me.
Greetings.

Note:

Until I create an iso image of disk D on a flash drive, I will not erase it as a precaution.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:09:18 GMT

One question, how did you install windows in the new m.2 drive? Did you clone it (in this case, what tool?) or you did a clean install and as already suggested, windows key is in the bios, so no problem installing it?

Thanks.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

TPFLegionaire — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 07:36:06 GMT

@Acelsp

I'll just tag @jjrodri07 to make sure he sees your question below:

"One question, how did you install windows in the new m.2 drive? Did you clone it (in this case, what tool?) or you did a clean install and as already suggested, windows key is in the bios, so no problem installing it?"

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 09:06:02 GMT

Before starting to do anything.
I recommend you get a w10 image on a pendrive in case it were necessary.

Simply for agility I use clonezilla.

I already have it perfect, W10 on the SSD, and the slowest internal 64Gb free for storage.

I'm thinking about installing some Linux distribution on those 64Gb

I'll tell you.

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

Acelsp — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:48:45 GMT

@jjrodri07, what I really wanted to know is the method you used to install windows in the new m.2. Did you do a clean install using a windows key or did you use your filezilla image to clone windows in the new m.2 drive?

Re: Akoya E4251 boot from m.2

jjrodri07 — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:06:20 GMT

I use W10 for create the USB for the image disks of W10 (I recommend a minimum Pendrive of 32Gb)

And I use Clonezilla pendrive. ( I use a pendrive of 8Gb)
1.- The pendrive with Clonezilla I created it with Rufus.
2.- Clonezilla duplicates the internal unit inside the SSD.

Restart

1.- Check that the first unit is the SSD. And that W10 starts from the SSD. If it is OK.

2.- How do you have the image discs of the W10 system in the first pendrive of 32Gb

Then you can erase the internal 64Gb drive

This is a generic explanation of the steps I have taken. What I hope will be useful.